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A comparison of one of Honda's old oil filters and their new, downsized oil filter

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The filters
Tops cut off
Anti-drainback valves taken off
The paper filtration elements
The bypass valve
The medium, starting disassembly.
About the filter "paper" itself.
Testing the filter medium.
Conclusion.



Honda appears to have recently (late 2003) undertaken a revision of their oil filters and this has sparked some debate about whether or not the new ones are as good as the old.

New filter part number: 15400-PLM-A02
Old filter part number: 15400-PT7-006

The fact that the new one appears smaller is of some concern, especially since a smaller can may mean less filtration medium. I decided to find out for myself some of the differences:
1) Is there less filtration medium?
2) Are there any other changes?

As a preamble, I have no connection with Honda Canada Inc. or Honeywell Consumer Products Group. My interest in this matter comes from being a Honda owner since 1991, and from having the desire to see my car last as long as possible in the best shape possible. I use Honda Canada Inc.'s FRAM-built filters because I like using OEM parts. I've had too many bad experiences with aftermarket parts to trust them without reservation. Would I use FRAM's aftermarket products? Maybe the premium ones, and only if they greatly resembled what Honda trusts to go on their engines.

Not being an automotive engineer, all I can really do is pull the things apart and look for obvious physical differences. I have no way of testing filtration media, spring pressures, gasket sealings, etc., reliably to see if anything is actually less effective from new to old, as opposed to just looking less effective.

Paper (which is part of my native industry) is more a chemical soup than it is wood or cotton fibers. These days they do not simply grind up some wood and press it into a sheet. Since the thing that ultimately makes a filter is the filtration medium, it is critical when judging the effectiveness of any filter to be able to apply proper tests, among them some that involve cycling through the filter a quantity of liquid containing a known weight of contaminants, and measuring the difference before and after. Just the fact that there is less medium than before is not relevant in-and-of-itself. Since we cannot apply proper test procedures, I will do my best with what tools I've got.

Two interesting links are here:
http://tl.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94837
and here
http://www.shoclub.com/lubrication-oil/lubrication-oilpart1.htm

FRAM manufactures these filters according to Honda's specs and requirements, which may or may not coincide with any of FRAM's usual production standards, procedures or materials. Remember too that Honda must honor any warranty claims that arise from engine damage due to the use of its filter. Honda has only a few filters for their entire fleet, some of which fleet will always be under warranty at any given time. They have an incentive to ensure that the filters will function properly within normal operating parameters.
So keep this in mind while reading...

The filters      (back to top)

Here are the cans, side by side, new one on the left. All the pictures in this sequence always show new on left. You can click on the pics for a somewhat bigger picture. Both filters were sold to me for use with my 1991 Acura Integra. B18A1 engine.
They're both made by FRAM, of course, and sold by Honda Canada Inc.
Their heights are closer than they appear:
New: 3-3/8" high by 2-11/16" diameter.
Old: 3-3/16" high by 3-3/16 diameter.

The new one's slightly taller, but a lot skinnier.

Actual can capacities are 9.5 oz for the new, 12 oz for the old. The new one is 20% smaller. I filled each can with water after cutting it off flush with the baseplate, and poured that into a measuring cup.


New and old, side by side

Tops cut off       (back to top)

I used a Dremel to cut the tops of the cans off. In the picture below, the filtration elements were taken off the baseplate (see lower down for pics of them). The orange thingies are the anti-drainback flaps. They're made of silicone rubber, like FRAM's premium aftermarket products. This is what prevents the oil from running back into your oil pan overnight.
(In case you're wondering, oil flow is IN the ring of small holes under the orange flap, through the filtration medium, and OUT the big hole in the middle.)

The paper element would ordinarily slip over the top of the drain-back flap by 1/8" or so. There is some pressure exerted by a metal "spring" at the top of the filter. When the can is crimped closed with the base plate, The element is squeezed between the top "spring" and the anti-drainback flap, sealing it.

Notice that the new filter has dispensed with the little metal sleeve that used to be on the old flap. It looks like there is a tapered "top hat" on the new flap that goes into the center hole of the element.


Cans removed, baseplates only

Anti-drainback valves taken off       (back to top)

Flip the drainbacks over, and what do we find? If you look closely at the old one, you'll see the the perimeter (the sealing edge) has a ridge that the new one lacks. The new one's edge is much more flexible, and almost tapers to a point at the perimeter. My guess is that the new one would seal better, especially with lighter synthetic oils now being specified by Honda for their new cars.

See the ring of inlet holes on each base plate?
New: There are ten 5mm holes
Old: There are eight 6mm holes.

The available oil-passage area is therefore:
New: 157 square  millimeters
Old: 151 square millimeters
That's a 4% difference in favor of the new one.

The new filter has only three threads in the baseplate's big outlet hole to hold it to the engine, while the older one has five. The new filter takes 8-10 ft. lbs. to tighten it, while the old one takes 15-17 lbs. I was told there had been some complaints about leakage with the old filter due to insufficient tightening, especially in the winter.


Drainback valves removed


The "paper" filtration elements
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These are the "paper" filtration elements, with the bypass valve still installed in the metal "spring" and pushed into the top hole of the element. This "spring" does two things: It houses and seals the bypass valve and seals the element against the drainback valve.

As stated several paragraphs ago, if you reassemble the filter's parts, the can will sit high about 3/16" over the baseplate until you push it down against this top spring to seat it. Note that these FRAM elements have "paper" end caps. More about that later.
If the element gets plugged, oil pressure will push open the bypass valve and allow oil to flow directly to the big hole in the middle. At that point, your engine reverts to 1920s-style unfiltered lubrication.


Elements, with bypass valves installed

The bypass valve       (back to top)

The bypass valve pushes open towards the engine block. That spring is pretty strong. The bypass valve itself appears to be the same in both filters. It's some kind of very strong, hard plastic. Apparently the reason FRAM uses this instead of a deformable rubber gasket is because gaskets can come loose, disintegrate, shift and develop leaks for these reasons. The hard plastic does none of that. Both my samples were a perfect seal against the metal as far as I could see.

Bypass valve, assembled  Bypass valve, disassembled  Bypass valve, pushed open

The media, starting disassembly.       (back to top)

In the first pic, we're we're peeking down the element itself. You can see the perforated metal sleeve that keeps the filtration paper from getting sucked through the big hole should the worst happen and the "paper" begin to buckle under the oil's pressure. In the second pic, the sleeve has been removed and the top end-cap has been cut off with a utility knife.

The sleeves are identical in both filters except for length.


Elements, from top  Elements, from top, end-cap removed

About the filter "paper" itself.       (back to top)

Before we go any further, a word about paper:

Contrary to some alarmists elsewhere on the Web, paper is not oil soluble. It will not disintegrate if left in the engine too long (it may clog, rip, and shear, but not disintegrate). Paper is WATER soluble. If you ever see a sheet of paper become weak and fall apart when soaked with oil, it is NOT because the fiber bonds have dissolved, like they would with water, but because the paper has not got enough fiber to withstand the weight of the oil, and because the fibrous construction and the chemical soup which created the bonds are not strong enough to avoid tearing. Simply, it's not designed for the task.

Furthermore, filter makers buy gasket-type "paper" for the end-caps and filtration "paper" for the medium. These "papers" are NOT the same as photocopy paper or corrugated shipping box paper. They are designed to be immersed in pressurized oil. The same end-cap "paper" FRAM uses is used for other gasket-type applications throughout your engine. You have dozens of them all over the place, not just in your filter.

Also, the metal end-cap/"paper" end-cap question is another thing is used to cause alarm among users. Whether a filter has metal end caps or "paper" ones is of no consequence at all when the filter is used in its correct application. Whether metal or "paper" is used for the end caps, glue is still used to hold everything together, and the glue seams (and medium pleats) are the weakest points of any filter.

If a particular filter medium has few pleats, more stress is placed on the end caps and on the glue seam between the end cap and the medium, so there would be a greater tendency for separation to occur. According to Internet Wisdom, FRAMs are particularly susceptible to this. Low-end FRAMs have large gaps between the pleats.

I've been told that if a particular manufacturer is using metal end caps, it is more probably because either 1) That's what their machinery uses, or 2) They use the same end cap dies for industrial filters that are intended to filter water-based liquids. NOT because "metal is better". They may market "metal is better" if they perceive some sales advantage to doing so, but there is no functional advantage to metal. However, it does keep them from having to upgrade their machinery...


Testing the filter medium.       (back to top)

Now we come to the crux of the matter, the filtration medium itself. And all I can do is measure and observe. Both papers appear identical to the naked eye. They both mike .040 inch in thickness.

As I said earlier, I have no way of testing the "paper" to see if there are molecular differences, or differences in fiber construction or layout, that might make a difference in fitration.
"Papers" can be--and are--treated with materials that impair the paper's ability to absorb water. If a car is driven infrequently, or for many short trips, water begins to build up in the oil. Should the amount of water get past a certain point, it begins to emulsify with the oil, leading to sludge. Further, it could begin to dissolve the filtration medium, assuming it were unprotected against water absorption, allowing loose fibers to migrate into the engine.

Accordingly, I weighed both papers dry, soaked both papers in water for 2-1/2 hours, wiped off the exess water then weighed them wet.

I rubbed both dry papers onto a black sheet to see if any fibers could be induced to come off the medium. A few fibers did let go from both under the abrasion. I wouldn't think that these fibers would be harmful, as paper is far softer than metal, and in any case they would be trapped by the medium after a single circuit through the engine.

New filter's paper: 2-5/16" x 50-1/8", or 0.80 of a square foot.
Dry weight: 0.375 ounce.
Wet weight: 2.0 oz.

Old filter's paper: 2" x 72", or 1.0 square foot.
Dry weight: 0.5 ounce.
Wet weight: 3.0 oz.

Interesting. The papers appear to be the same density, and the new filter loses 0.20 of a sq. ft. in area. That's a square about 5-1/2" on a side. (The new element is at the top of the pic).

The new medium increased in weight by 5.33 times when wet and the old increased by 6 times, about 20% difference, in keeping with the 20% differences found elsewhere. All the water ingress seems to have been through the cut top and bottom, and through the fold lines. The uncut faces appear to have absorbed negligible amounts of water. Tear strength does not appear to be much reduced when wet. Also the wet "paper" STINKS!

I think the "paper" is the same stuff in both filters.


Element, paper stretched out

Conclusion.       (back to top)

What conclusions can I come to about the new filter?

  1. The can is smaller, 80% of the old one, so may take slightly less time for the engine to build pressure on a cold start, when the center pipe would be dry.
  2. The drain-back flap is more flexible and appears to work better, probably in response to the use of the new 0W-20 part-synthetic engine oils Honda is specifying now.
  3. There's 20% less filtration medium. Is the new stuff better at its job? Don't know. Does the loss of 20% make any difference? Don't know. Was there more medium before than there really needed to be? Don't know that either.
  4. It's easier to achieve correct tightening torque with the new filter, so leaks should be more easily avoided.
  5. Honda is installing these filters on cars that are under warranty. That should say something right there.

I'm using the new filters .