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The Honda coil:
Where it is, what it looks like, and how to kill it...
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Update
Feb/06: The original version of this page blamed the aftermarket plug
wires for having insufficient resistance and causing cascading
failures. I've been told this is incorrect. Apparently insufficient
resistance does no harm to the ignition, but excessive resistance does. The coil
failure documented herein was likely precipitated by the failure of the
resistor in the aftermarket rotor.
Reader J. Poy's son has a 1991 Integra
(a fine car, if I do say so myself).
This sequence of photos was
supplied by him, and was generated by him during his quest to resurrect
this vehicle, which did not want to start.
To make a
long story short
for those not much interested (then why are you here?): What appears to
have happened is that the son had installed a "high performance"
aftermarket rotor, among other parts. The resistor inside the
rotor failed. Once the resistor failed, current could not
find a proper ground and destroyed the coil by grounding through its
body.
Now the
detail, and the photographs!
(I love photos...)
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This is a picture
of the
distributor with the cap off. The coil is at the very top, inside the
distributor, still
in place. Looks OK to the naked eye, but... And notice also the blue
"cold
air" intake tube. Looks cool, but did Poy's offspring know that the
Integra already has a "cold air intake" from
the factory?
What else has the owner done to this poor baby?
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Coil is removed, a simple job involving a
few screws and a
connector or two. |
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Now
we can have a
closer look inside. The yellow arrow is showing an area of burnt
erosion where the cap's terminal would contact the coil's
terminal. This erosion indicates a poor connection, which to me
indicates an aftermarket or damaged distributor cap. Ordinarily this
join does not
flex, unlike in the old days, where you had an actual wire plugged into
this terminal.
This coil gives a weak spark. There is no visible
carbon
tracking or other evidence of external grounding. (Here, from Mike Pardee, is another picture of a coil that has
very obvious damage from internal arcing.)
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Comparing the two coils side-by-side... |
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The bad rotor resistor was a surprise. Mr. Poy was
doing
diagnostics
with a digital voltmeter when he discovered that the rotor had a potted
resistor in it. He was previously unaware that the rotor even had such
a thing. (The
resistor might be
an RF filter, I'm not sure.) The
OEM rotors I've bought have all had black potting soil.
All
other readings in
the high-tension side checked out OK,
except this resistor. It appears that when this resistor failed,
the
spark had nowhere to go, and so overheated and destroyed the coil. |
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Poy was able to restore the rotor to functionality by
soldering
in a
wire jumper. Not the best solution, but probably OK for short-term use. |
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And here, the aftermarket
wires. I can just make out the "Accel"
logo on
them. Maybe they are in fact very good wires. Maybe they do in fact
allow a bigger or more reliable spark at the plugs (provided the coil
can produce a bigger one). However, being
aftermarket, there is a much greater chance of conductivity problems
that would prevent the spark from dissipating its energy at the plugs. |
Some
questions regarding "upgrading" your ignition system with aftermarket
parts:
How do you know
you're actually getting a "better" spark?
In two words: You
can't!
You have no way of knowing, short of dyno-ing the car. As long as the
existing spark is white to blue-white and is sufficient to start a
healthy combustion process
going in your engine, no
amount of "upgrading" is going to give you more power or mileage.
Either
combustion occurs properly or it does not.
A "fatter" spark will not make any usable improvements in combustion
efficiency compared to a stock system in good order. Unless you rework
the combustion chamber shape, ignition timing curve, fuel delivery, cam
profiles, exhaust backpressure...You get the picture.
A "fatter" spark may do nothing more than erode your spark plugs faster
than they otherwise might.
Do you need a
"better" spark?
Maybe. If you
race, that is.
In
some race situations,
combustion chamber conditions are such that the spark can be quenched,
and a beefed-up ignition system is necessary to ensure that the spark
will not get drowned out. Racing engines with 14:1 compression ratios
can fall victim to this. Your 10:1 road engine is unlikely ever to experience quenching, even
at
full-throttle and high revs.
If your spark is being quenched or weakened because your ignition
system has been neglected, replacing only one component with something
purporting to be "high performance" is not a good idea.
Well, aftermarket parts are a lot
cheaper than that stuff the dealer tries to gouge me on, right?
Yes, until expensive stuff starts to fail (like coils). OEM
parts
are expensive for several reasons besides dealer markup. Firstly, they
are tailored exactly to the
rest of your engine's systems. Secondly, they generally fit a lot
better than aftermarket, and last a lot longer. Thirdly, they are made
to much higher standards than most aftermarket parts.
Think of it this way: Suppose you replace your cap, rotor, and wires
every five years. Suppose you spend $200 each time to do it with OEM
parts. Amortized over five years, that's $40 per year. And you'll have
no trouble with them or their surrounding parts, either. Even if
aftermarket is half the price, that's still $20 per year if you
amortize it over five years, except that you're unlikely to get five
years out of them...